Wednesday, November 19, 2008

The Breaking Point

Dog Mom here.

I need help. Waldo is about to drive us to drink. He is a 7-month old Great Dane with what appears to be a severely small bladder. It's so frustrating! Everyone says that dogs should be able to "hold it" one hour for each month. Well, Waldo is the exception to that rule. Everyone also says that dogs don't like to pee in their cages because then they have to lay in it. Well, Waldo's the exception to that rule, too.

Today marks the 3rd day THIS WEEK that Waldo has peed in his cage. And its not just that he pees a little. This is GREAT DANE pee we're talking about here! It's like every time he goes, he's emptying a tankard. I go through almost an entire roll of paper towels cleaning it up--not to mention the extra load of laundry we have to do because his blanket's completely soaking wet, and the floor we have to clean because it drips when we take it to the basement.

Nick is totally done--and now relegating Waldo and his cage to the basement. I would like to solve the problem, instead of banishing our youngest to scary land.


Here's what we're already doing:
1. We have cordoned his cage off, so he only has room to turn around. After he pees, he ends up standing for the rest of the time.
2. We don't leave him all day. Nick leaves for work about 9:00. He comes home for lunch about 12:30, then leaves again about 1. I get home between 5:30 and 6. So at the most, he's going 5 to 5.5 hours.
3. Nick restricts their water at lunchtime.
4. I KNOW he can hold it longer. A few times we've forgotten to put him in his cage overnight, and he makes it 7 or 8 hours without having an accident in the house.

I let him out often when I'm home, and he always goes potty in the yard. I take him out every hour or hour and a half, because he will literally stand in the dining room and start peeing (and I'm NOT ignoring him). This is where I think part of the problem might be--he hasn't worked his bladder-holding muscles enough. But I don't really know how to work on that--he'll just pee where he stands. Recently he has started whining when he needs to go out, which is helpful, and I always praise him up and down when he does that.

Doggie mommies and daddies--any suggestions?


Khyra The Siberian Husky said...


My mom feels so badly fur woo -

She doesn't have any suggestions but she'll forward it along -


Indy said...

Hmmmm - has he been checked for any health problems? That's the first step, to make sure it's not a medical issue.

Doggies that don't mind peeing in their crates, that's hard to break. Did he come from a shelter or pet store? Since those dogs HAVE to pee in their enclosures, they can develop that habit. Make sure you clean up with something like Nature's Miracle or Zero Odor that totally eliminates the smell.

And of course, ever time he pees or poos outside, praise him and reward him with a high end treat. I hope this helps!

Flurry and Aja said...

Don't know if this will help but it has worked with every dog I have ever housebroken.

Mentally a dog needs to know that they will be outside again where it is ok to pee. They need to know this without a doubt and have no way of knowing this fact unless we train them.

When you are home and even when he is in his cage take him outside every two hours. During the night it is worth it to get up and do this every three hours. You can stretch the schedule over time.
Dogs can't tell time. They just need to see the pattern of going out and then they wait for the next time.

If this doesn't work I would definitely look for a medical problem. :(

Steve, Kat, & Wilbur said...

Oh no! So sorry you're having to deal with this problem. We had a similar issue, but not pee, poop. The dogs were getting baths daily because they had to sit in their poop. I honestly don't know what we did to fix it, but eventually they stopped. We put towels in the crate and they would poop in the corner and kind of wad the towel up on top of the poop so they stayed clean, then eventually they stopped doing it. We have occasional accidents here and there, but nothing daily anymore, thank goodness. Hang in there!

Anonymous said...

Is he taking in excessive fluid? have the vet test him for diabetes. I so feel for you, with a new pup Im over pee... if the towels arent in the machine they are stacked up waiting.

We dont use crates in Australia. Chels has my bedroom and a large verandah so Im not sure what to advise here. Your 100% right though at 7months Waldo should be past this point...

Let us know how you get on

Mango said...

First thing would be to check for a bladder infection. My Beautiful Raja got these and she made pee in her bed. Momma had to collect a urine sample and bring it in a cup to the vet (not much fun for her).

Eventually Raja had to have some splurgury for a watchercall inverted vagina (huh?) that was causing her infections. That made her mostly better.

Momma says to talk to the doggie doctor right away. Hope that helps.


Mango said...

Whoops, just remembered that you are a boy dog, so you can't have that problem my Raja had, but you could still have some sort of pee-pee malfunction.


Shmoo said...

As others have already said: check for a medical reason first, then go for the behavior thing next:
rule out urinary tract infection, bladder infection, diabetes, kidney issues.

If you rule that out, I would try some of the suggestions that the others have offered.

Meeshka's human woman

Saint Lover said...

I suggest having him tested for a UTI and if then limit his access to water prior to when he has to be crated. Next I would start at square one with the potty training.

Amber said...

Oh....poor Dog Mom. :( Waldo should be way past this but I agree with everyone else...check for a medical reason first. So, Waldo is left from 9:00 to 12:30, that's not you always make sure he goes outside to go potty before you leave? With Nala, we always make her go out before we leave and she will most always go...of course, we give her a treat when she comes back in. :) Occasionally if she really doesn't have to go she will still assume the position and pretend. ;) Anything for a treat! Most of the time she goes though. Good luck! We will be thinking of you!

Amber & Nala

Mindy Lu said...

PAW! I hope your mommy finds out your problem. I am able to hold it, but when I finally do go, I go for a loooooonnnnggg time. Ahhhhhh, and it feels so good.
PAW- Max the Dude!

The FOUR Musketeers said...

That the best we can take ! BOL ! Yeap ! Joyce is indeed a furball :D

Amber said...

Waldo & Gus,

Mom didn't get a bone cake..only a Dairy Queen Blizzard and an espresso brownie. Dad's not much of a cake maker! BOL! However, I am totally telling Mom I WANT a bone cake for my birthday! So cool...does your Mom have a good recipe?

Indy said...

If Waldo is having health problems and is on medication for them, that could be affecting his ability to hold his pee, just a thought. Please keep us updated on how he does!

The Zoo Crew said...

The first thing I thought of was a UTI....Willow, my now 9 month old dane was doing quite well with her housetraining then around 4 months old, started peeing in the house. So I took in a urine sample and sure enough, she had a UTI. Once done with the meds, she's never peed in the house or her crate again. Good luck!!